Thursday, November 15, 2012

Sound Prdn: Work II Acoustic Portrait

Here is the official assignment for Work II. Monitor this thread. Feel free to ask questions in the comments section.

WORK II: ACOUSTIC PORTRAIT: Overview:

Student is required to create a sonic portrait of a very specific subject of his choice. As a cubist painter shows more than one view within the portrait, the student will present the subject from a variety of different perspectives. This requires field recording in different modes, e.g.: interviewing/ambience/discrete sources/walk-throughs; recorded with required variance in microphone perspective. The microphone, representing the listener’s ear, must be placed very specifically and creatively to obtain raw material useful to paint a sonic portrait. Close micing reveals intimate detail and exclusivity. Greater distance adds space and surrounding environmental information, providing location and context.

Just as a painted portrait reveals the subject thoroughly, so should the acoustic portrait.

The student transfers the source recordings to CD, logs, and transfers selected elements into a Pro Tools digital audio workstation for editing. All previously learned rules of editing apply. There will be a requirement of two tracks, one stereo, one mono. Interview and point source recordings must go to a mono track. Ambience and sounds with significant spatial components must go to the stereo track. The student must demonstrate himself to be a good recordist. This requires proper recording in the field with either a stereo or mono microphone as appropriate. Total time: 2-4 minutes. Submission includes: Final edit/mix on a stereo audio CD; Microtrack source recordings on audio CD; Pro Tools session on approved MAD workstation.

Further important details:

Work Two: Acoustic Portrait:

This is an addendum/assignment sheet to the overview given in class this week. Please be aware there are conditions regarding what subjects you can and can not use for your Work. Obtain approval for your subject in class on 11/20/12.

Be certain to record in the appropriate mode for your source material. Stereo or mono, as detailed in class on 11/20.

Get room tone in the field. When you’re through recording an interview, get at least 30s of ambience (matching record level and mic position.) You will use this later to cut in “silence” to space passages – to help maintain cadence. Slate “room tone” just before rolling. This helps you log and dub. N.B.: When you dub the tone, take it several times, including the slate, so you can find it; and since you may need more than 30s worth (though probably not for a project of this short length.) It’s essential to dub room tone at exactly the same level as you dubbed the vox. This makes the room tone as “loud” as the spaces between words. It can then be easily intercut.

Skillfully select mic position. Proper interview vox micing is standard and already detailed. Be sure to use the 635A for interviewing. Remember to minimize or eliminate handling noise, plosives and wind noise. If you get these on your source recordings you must cut them out or face grading penalties. Please do vary mic position when not interviewing, as detailed 11/20. A film composed entirely of close-ups, for example, doesn’t give the viewer enough, yes? Round-out your recordings by placing the mic at various distances from the sound source. This gives the ear perspective. We’ll hear space as well as close-in detail.

Log and mentally edit as per Work One. Have at least 60 minutes of source recording; the mental cut therefore saves data storage space and time. Use an appropriate structure.

Techs:

50-edit minimum, 2-4 minutes final edit mix. Mono, 635A sources go to mono Pro Tools track. Stereo, stereo electret mic, sources go to a stereo Pro Tools Track. The stereo track may serve as a bed for the mono track, if desired. I will look at your Pro Tools session as well as listen to your CD. No late work. Total time: 2-4 minutes. Submission includes: Final edit/mix on a stereo audio CD; Microtrack source recordings on audio CD; Pro Tools session on approved MAD workstation. All work, including subsequent assignments, must be accomplished solo and at the Media Arts Department as detailed.

Do Not Choose:

The following as subjects:

·      Your car
·      Yourself
·      Family member
·      Pet
·      Computer/internet or gaming related
·      “Day in the life of…,” i.e. waking, eating, showering, going, doing routine.
·      NJCU campus
·      Journal Square or transit system
·      Bogus or dramatized subjects

Additionally:

Obtain approval for your subject in class next week. Your due date for this assignment is 12/11/12, 3 weeks, including time for subject selection and approval. Label all materials. Make sure all your sessions are properly booked. Remember this is solo work.




101 comments:

  1. Vin,

    I get the idea that our sonic portrait has to be presented from a variety of different perspectives. I see the listed subjects that we can not use. I am drawing a blank on choosing a subject, which sucks. I know you prefer not to give examples because they tend to limit creativity. So are there any suggestions that can help everyone choose a subject. I researched a few online but they were mostly personal audio on family and self.

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    1. Well, I guess you might want to back-up. It's not an ultra complicated task. Think of a person, place or thing you find somewhat interesting. If you have an interest, it is more likely you will be involved in the work. In the professional world, of course, you may be given a task in which you have no interest. And you'd be expected to do quality work. However, since as a student you have the luxury to choose, to some degree, take advantage of that.

      Also, "researching" on-line is not likely to yield anything good. Don't waste your time.

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    2. Hey!
      I sent you an email but just trying my chances here as well. I wanted to get a microtrack out from central but we didn't have any pink cards in class signed. Tom said to shoot you an email and then you can ok it with them.

      Would you please!
      I think there's a couple left. If not, then I will have to record next week.

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    3. Vin,

      I took the microtrack to a memorial service for my cousin I recorded the service. I was thinking of doing a acoustic portrait of her, I used the t-mic to get the ambience as they were singing. I went home to get my work and saw that there was a loud buzzing noise in the back of everything. I looked at the settings everything seems to be correct, I think there might be something wrong with the T-mic or the jack as the microtrack is working perfectly for the 635A. The 635A is working perfectly there is nothing coming in, its so clear. What should I do? This fricking sucks!
      Even if i head to the Hookah Bar i still need the T-mic for stereo.

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    1. Note the due date has been extended to 12/11/12.

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  3. Vin and to everyone,


    As for an idea that I am going to be using in my work 2, I would be using a bakery. I would be conducting interviews with the staff as well as how the ordering process is done for customers (ex. someone ordering a cake or pastry). I hoped this a good idea/example that everyone could start from.

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    1. Alberto,

      For the bakery, is it a specific bakery? Or will you be recording in and representing any, or many bakeries? I will assume one specific bakery for the purpose of this response.

      Remember that all the sounds you record will point to your subject, directly address it. In this case, they refer to the ____________ Bakery.

      Record ambience. Get the sound of the “baker’s side” as well as the “customer’s side” of the store. Each room will have a different ambience. Use a stereo recording technique (see handout for Microtrack setup.) This will enable you to record in stereo in a 360 degree soundfield, which is an excellent way to capture ambience. Make sure you hold the Microtrack so the microphone forms a “T” with the top portion parallel to the ground. Front and back is perpendicular to the top portion of the “T” and parallel to the ground.

      Stereo micing is also useful when you want to capture a sound effect having spatial content. That means it makes sound which does not emanate from just one point in space. For example, let me guess that the bakery has a machine which runs baked products on an 8 foot long metal conveyor. And imagine that this conveyor makes squeaks in different places along its length. It would be very cool to make a recording capturing not only the sound of the machine, but the position of the squeaks in the left/right stereo spread, or soundfield. The stereo sound gets transferred to a stereo track in Pro Tools. (You won’t be doing any transferring to Pro Tools yet. But you may begin recording, archiving to CD, and logging.)

      Many sound effects are “point source,” emanating from a single point in space. Examples of this could be a door slam, footstep, cash register, bread slicing machine, etc. For these sounds, use the Microtrack in mono mode, set up for the 635A mic (see your handout.) Mono sources like point source sound effects and interviews are always recorded with the 635A and go to a mono track in Pro Tools. The mono sound gets transferred to a mono track in Pro Tools. (You won’t be doing any transferring to Pro Tools yet. But you may begin recording, archiving to CD, and logging.)

      Which brings us to interviews. They are not required, but are often excellent in a piece like this. Make sure that all the interview cuts (cuts mean edits) you use are focused directly at the subject of your portrait. In this case it is the ________ Bakery. You may want to interview the baker, the salesworker, customers, delivery people, etc. Tailor your open ended questions such that the responses will always be referring to the subject. That is key. And ask people to tell some stories about the bakery, you never know what you are going to get. Of course, most of it will not be gold, so be prepared to have a high ratio of crap to gold. See the assignment sheet for information about recording room tone for interviews.

      For your specific idea, I would suggest recording interaction between the customers and the sales. In other words people buying bread, etc.. This is not an interview, it is not ambience and it is not a sound effect. It is called “actuality.” That’s a media geek term for a recording of something “actually happening.” LOL… But, recorded and employed well in your piece can make the work vibrant and alive. You will choose the recording method, stereo or mono, as you feel appropriate for your particular location. Don’t get too far away, or it may be difficult for the listener to understand what is going on in your actuality. (Another actuality might be interaction between the boss baker and the workers. Or the baker making a pie. ETC!)

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    2. And this too, Alberto:

      So we have ambience, point source and spatial sound effects, interviews and actuality. Now, let’s talk about perspective, a very important aspect of this assignment. Simply put, you must vary the microphone distance to the source for all types of recordings you make, when you can, except interviews. (Interviews, as you know, must use the standard 6-8”/45 deg deal.)

      If you are recording a point source sound effect, for example, let’s say a dough mixing machine, you would try recording at close, medium and far distances. This could be creatively edited later in Pro Tools. Consider that close micing removes the effect of the surrounding space, or room sound, giving you almost all dough mixer. The listener hears close-in detail. Further away adds more space or room sound to the direct machine sound. This gives me an acoustic sense of the room -- reverberation and space. Even further gives me more room to machine ratio and the use of all 3 in the piece gives a complete representation of the sound and the sound in the context of its environment.

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  4. To Vin and everyone

    An idea I have for work II is an area under construction. I will conduct interviews with the workers about noise exposure. Also ambience of the work in progress from different angles.

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    1. Stevenson, and all, please see my above responses to Alberto's idea. I think many of the concepts I laid out can be universally applied in this type of assignment. I think your basic idea is excellent, and when you get more details, or have questions, post again.

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    2. I have been shot down several times with the construction idea because they were time based operation or closed area. Could I go with my second idea? Working at the car wash.

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  5. General note: After you have presented your idea and I say it's "OK" you may take out a Microtrack, record, transfer to CD and log. You will not begin Pro Tools sessions until after next class. So far Alberto and Stevenson are good to go. I did not have time to show you how to sign out the Microtracks...you need "pink cards" from Central. Tomorrow, Weds., I am in MARS with my Post class from 12-3, and office hours from 3-6. If you come by I can sign cards.

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  6. Another note: Your voice cannot be on this piece. So don't even bother micing yourself if you are doing interviews. Your voice will have to be cut out.

    And generally, remember, the acoustic portrait is trying to reveal the true meaning or being, just like a good painted portrait does.

    Remember, sound is 3 dimensional!

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  7. Deadline for WII extended to 12/11/12. But since the semester does not get longer, W III will be assigned prior to WII's due date. So don't slack on this.

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  8. Hello! so I thought of some ideas:
    If I choose a PLACE it would be a Hookah Bar. I can currently get two different places to assist me in getting the sound for the project. There's a bar in Newark and one in Journal Square in which I know both the owners. If I choose that idea I will use the same information you gave to Albert.

    My other idea was a "door" since doors can symbolize the opening or closing of something, the coming and going, and the beginning or end. There are different types of doors that each make different sounds when opened and closed. metal, glass, wood, car doors, train doors, deli doors, etc. Doors all lead to different places, they have a curious effect in that we never know whats on the other side. I thought maybe the transition between the different doors and the sound effects of whats inside. Doors can also be used metaphorically to describe different moments or steps in life.

    Just trying to be creative. If neither subjects are good enough then I can do interviews on passionate football fans since I work and live in a sports environment.

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    1. Leeanna, both ideas have excellent potential, but since you offered the hookah bar first, I am assuming it is your first choice. One caveat, if there is music playing in the bar all the time, that will be problematic. If that's the case, recording interviews in there will not be good. Because you will have to cut both the vox and the music simultaneously. Quite a PITA. And that would probably lead to upcuts in the music when cueing the vox. If there is music in there, I would suggest doing interviews somewhere else, somewhere quiet. In fact, I suggest that for anyone in the class.

      For walkthroughs and actuality, you may be ok, but it still will present some challenges.

      If the ambience inside the bar has no music, then it's easier.

      Other than that, a good idea and go for it.

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    2. hookha bar! Vin you should let me go with her as extra credit! hahaha

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    3. Solo work, Joey....SOLO. But nothing prevents you from going Hookah at another time. That is not under my jurisdiction. XD

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    4. Vin,

      I took the microtrack to a memorial service for my cousin I recorded the service. I was thinking of doing a acoustic portrait of her, I used the t-mic to get the ambience as they were singing. I went home to get my work and saw that there was a loud buzzing noise in the back of everything. I looked at the settings everything seems to be correct, I think there might be something wrong with the T-mic or the jack as the microtrack is working perfectly for the 635A. The 635A is working perfectly there is nothing coming in, its so clear. What should I do? This fricking sucks!
      Even if i head to the Hookah Bar i still need the T-mic for stereo.

      (That was a previous comment. I tried to record some sounds this morning with the Microtrack but now I cant hear anything when speaking into the 635A. I have concluded it has to be something wrong with Microtrack No.13. I am returning it tomorrow morning. Do you think it is possible for me to be able to take another one tomorrow out instead since the whole weekend and all my efforts were wasted.Not sure how much I can get done but I will try.)

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  9. i will go to both places and check out the sound in the day and night. thank you.

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  10. I thought of this very carefully:
    Plan A: I have a real close friend that that works at a pizzeria that his uncle owns, I would go in and get an interview with a costumer and/or an interview with my friend or someone that works in the pizzeria. These will be generic questions that I will be asking: How long have been work there, Do u enjoy the pizza, Do enjoy this pizza then any other pizza, anything about the pizzeria. While I am conducting these interviews there will still be orders and pizza being made.

    Plan B: I will be at the closest functioning park that is being maintained by children, parents, and maybe whoever cleans the park. I will be doing the same thing I said for the pizzeria except I will be asking questions about the park and ask if they will and why they will be using the new park that is being redone.

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    1. Joey,
      The interviews should be done in a relatively quiet place, or editing will become problematic. The actuality, pizza ordering, making, etc., should be recorded separately as detailed in my responses above. Remember to record in the various types I discussed above, in stereo or mono, as appropriate. Pizza it is.

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  11. Hey,

    My idea is to record a dental office. I will use your suggestions to Alberto as they also apply to me . I will record the ambiance while the Doctor works on patients, and I will do the same for the reception area. I will also conduct interviews with various patients as well as the doctors. I work at a dental office, and asked my boss and she gave me the okay to do this project.

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    1. OK. You got it, Natalia. I just want to clarify something, for everybody: "Ambience" and "ambiance" are 2 different words. With respect to sound, we refer to "ambience." "Ambiance" is generally attributed to perfumes and non acoustic environments. ; )

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  12. Vin,
    My first idea was to record several of my nephews playing a popular or rather 'violent' video game on Xbox Live. I thought their interactions with the game content, each other, and their rivals on Live would be interesting to listen to. Then I read that we can't use family members.

    For my second idea, I am hoping that I can record the busy and noisy ambience of a movie theater. Besides the sounds of people's chatter as they enter the theater, I think that i can get some good interviews of people before they watch a movie and after. Also feedback from employees at the ticket booth, snack bars, and/or clean up crew. Maybe even some sounds from infomercials, intros, or trailers at a movie of my choice?

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    1. Ivan, let's call your subject "movie theater." Review the approaches I wrote about in the above posts and you are good to go. Also, good use of term "ambience" in your comment.

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  13. Professor,
    My idea is to record the ambience of my office. The sound of the different artifacts, machines, people and all things related to an office. I was not sure if it would be uncreative for you but I have been paying attention and I have heard interesting sounds that I can use.
    My second idea is a little bit more challenging but is to record in the airport. I can record lines to check in, people waiting for flitghs, not sure if that is allow to do it, but I can try.

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    1. 2 things, firstly, which is your preference? I want to comment only on one.
      Secondly, and to all, always think of the SUBJECT first, then adapt the recording techniques. So, when presenting this to me, start with the subject and why it's good, then move on to how you'll do it. ; )

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    2. I prefer the first idea, the acoustic portrait of an office. The tipical sounds of an office. I like the idea in a way that could convey that these sounds are a little uncomfortable and stressing for the people who work in an office and I may also include some interviews about it. I would like to make a varied portrait of specific sounds and the sound as a whole (not sure how this is called) of all machines (copiers, printers) coupled with the people who work there.

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    3. OK, good, Josy. Exploring the "uncomfortable" aspect of the office environment, acoustically, is very interesting. Don't forget the various perspectives in mic placement distance spoken about above. That will help the listener "know" the space.

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  14. Professor,

    I was going to try to use a casino but they rejected me, so I'm thinking of using a spa/gym/resort. There are different areas to move around in and also I could conduct interviews away from other sounds.

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    1. Give me more. Have you read this entire post with comments?

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    2. I was thinking of interviewing a manager as if I were a potential member and getting a rundown of all the facilities... the bar/restaurant, the basketball court, the gym, and the huge pool area (outdoor/indoor). Then, I could use the stereo recording technique to capture the ambience of the different environments. I could also get the water splashes and maybe some other sound effects with spatial content.

      Also, I'm thinking I could use the MicroTrack in mono mode to get some of the specific, point-source sounds lke the slams and dings of the gym equipment.

      I could get some conversations between members and/or guests and also interview them about what they like/dislike about the resort, etc.

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    3. Still thinking about it...the spa/resort I'm thinking of is up in the country, fairly isolated, so I could try to focus the interviews on how it might be more then just a gym to them. Maybe it's more than just a fun getaway for the staff...or maybe it's all some members/guests have to do up there, etc.

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    4. Garrett, don't make your recording as if you are a potential member. That will be too contrived. However, the subject itself is good and your last comment is homing in on a very interesting aspect of the subject. Go with that.

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  15. Travis: I am going to record an audio recording studio session n process.

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    1. I was thinking about recording an concert and interviewing the musicians.

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    2. My new idea is to record a few high school students presentations within a classroom setting.

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    3. Professor I am profiling an English teacher observing his students doing a presentation for him. Their goal was to form groups of four and create mock companies, then pitch their ideas to a panel for funding. My idea is to do a portrait of the teacher.

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    4. It's do-able if indeed the subject is the teacher. Use the presentations as actuality. Don't forget the other requirements.

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  16. Hey, I was thinking of using Jeffrey Dessources, who works for Campus Life, as a subject because he's a poet. I've already gotten his permission. Then I was thinking that I should open it up to poets in general, since I know quite a few on and off campus.

    I want to record performances, conduct interviews, recording ambience during performances, as well as sounds during the writing or preparation process, such as papers rustling, pencil scratching, whatever.

    There's actually an event on campus this week where poets and rappers will be performing. I was hoping to record some of that as well.

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    1. Good idea Kiana. The portrait is an interesting form because it tries to get at the heart of the subject, but is not weighed down by linear facts, like a documentary. It strikes me that an acoustic portrait, poetry in sound, about poets, is very appropriate. Watch your levels at the live performance as that may be amplified.

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  17. I would like to do the sounds of a coffee shop. I'm thinking of recording the sounds of an espresso machine and customers ordering their drinks. Just the whole vibe of a coffee shop. Yes No Maybe So?

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    1. Daniel, it's a good subject with a lot of opportunity to get good sound. You did not provide a lot of detail so I will reiterate: make sure you read the assignment and the comments herein as there is a lot of information applicable to your endeavor. Go for it.

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  18. im going to do the sound of track and field.

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    1. Not enough information. Read this post and comment set in its entirety, then post back.

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    2. Im thinking about doing the sounds of a track meet. Recording things such as the starter, runners, etc.

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    3. By "sounds of a track meet," do you mean the "track meet" is your subject? "Sounds of a track meet" could be used for any number of subjects. What is yours? You did not add any new information.

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  19. Hey Professor,
    I was going to say the hookah bar down the street because I know the owners of the hookah bar on west side and wanted to get permission first, but I guess someone heard my idea last week and took it :( I was wondering if I could do a gym possibly? or a laundromat or dry cleaners place? because they have a lot of really interesting sounds with the equipment and for the cleaners racks and machines in the back.

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  20. never mind, scratch those ideas. I think i need to develop my ideas a bit more.

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  21. Hey Professor,

    I was thinking about using the sound at my job, which is a Juice/Smoothie Bar. Maybe record sounds of the blender or juice machine running and also possibly interviewing everyday customers that comes in and out. My other idea was to use a supermarket. I live very close to a Stop&Shop I can possibly ask for permission of maybe record the sound of the registers scanning items or any ambience sound that happens in a supermarket, and also possibly very short interviews between employees and customers.

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    1. Brittney, both those ideas are similar and certainly very do-able. Tell me what your preference is and then tell me what you'd record in stereo vs. mono modes.

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  22. Before you do your first Pro Tools session, read this new post, Flying Pro Tools Solo.

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  23. Hey again Professor,
    I wanted to use the sound of the Hoboken Shelter. There are nights that people can go and eat dinner and volunteers help out at the soup kitchen, and also events on the weekend like bingo night and music night. I was thinking of getting the ambient sound of those events like the people sitting at tables and the chairs moving/people being served. Also I would interview the volunteers/employees and the people that come in for a meal and assistance. I think it would be a good place, please let me know if this works. Thank You.

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  24. This has a lot of potential. Go for it. Remember to record in the different modes and perspectives (distances). You might want to make a list of things you want to get recorded so you don't forget. Don't be afraid to let your interviewees speak without interrupting them. That will give them the time and ease to speak the way they do naturally, comfortably and tell hopefully interesting things about your subject, the Hoboken Shelter.

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  25. Professor,

    Hello.

    As discussed earlier I'd like to use Band Activity as my subject. I would include mono sounds of various instruments, noise and feedback from amps and jacks, voice interview segments featuring thoughts or experiences, and sounds of motion. In stereo I would include fragments of songs, errors and mistakes in a practice session, and general ambient band activity(shuffling about, tuning up, side conversation, set up). You mentioned that this type of subject could be potentially off depending on who it is I'm working with, but I have faith, and should things not work out so well I will switch to subject 2, provided I can use subject 1 in the first place.. I want to paint the experience of a band's preparation; stress, seriousness, jokes, whatever it means to -be- a band. Everything that is not a performance, the activity that goes on between shows, what an audience does not see. It would be a specific band that I would be using, one I'm not involved in.

    For a second choice I would use Breakfast as a subject. A rendition of the essence of breakfast in a warm and positive light. Likes and preferences in voice, along with utensils and foods, (eggs cracking, sizzling bacon) and other significant mono sounds. For ambiance I would use a restaurant or busy kitchen activity.

    Either of these alright? Enough detail I hope??

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  26. Oh man, this is Cameron, sorry I forgot I made an account here forever ago, I thought my name would be posted with my google account, but yes, this is Cameron haha.

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    1. OK Cameron. The way you fleshed the band portrait, I think it's doable. One question,what do you mean by "feedback from ... jacks"? I want to stress that everything you use must be recorded with one of the 2 microphones specified. No direct, line level connections to the Microtrack should be made. I hope that is clear. If that's not what you meant, please explain. I did not bother to read your sacrificial 2nd choice. Go with the band.

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  27. This is Paul Jaigua. My idea has to do with interviewing the different people at a home for the elderly and mentally challenged (where i work). Nurses,receptions, supervisors, some of the residents, chefs, whomever.
    The sounds of the airconditioning, kitchen, and others in the building would serve as ambience.
    Let me know if this is doable. Thank you.

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    1. Besides interviews which would be recorded mostly in mono (minus the employees in the kitchen) There is sound from receptionists making copies, to the kitchen where food is prepared, to where the residents reside, people speaking over the intercom, a handyman.
      Let me know

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    2. Paul,
      Firstly, name, very clearly, what your subject is. After that, we can get into the techniques. This goes for everyone, as I said previously. This is important because, after all, your recordings must work to illustrate your subject, not the other way around.

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    3. The subject would be on the happenings within a nursing home for the elderly.Those who run the place, those within.

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    4. That is not a subject. If I paint a portrait of a pear, the subject is a pear, not how I paint it, or the type of paint used. Get it? You have to articulate this.

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    5. The subject is the nursing home...

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    6. OK, doable. write your open ended questions before you make your location recording. Try to probe for something interesting or unique from each of your interviews as it applies to the nursing home, your subject. Don't forget the other aspects of the assignment.

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  28. Hey Vince,
    The subject I would like to use is recording a retail store. I would interview the store manager and tell me the basic history of how the store started and became big. Then I would have like a cashier talking with a customer about the promotion of the day. Next thing. I would have the stereo part to be the background of the crowd shopping in the store, the music of the store, and cash register opening and closing.
    Let me know what you think ...

    Ps. I spoke with the store manager she's ok with it.

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    1. Merlyn,
      Well, your subject is a retail store, am I right? Is it generic for all retail stores and recorded in a variety of them? Or is it very specific, like a certain shoe store, etc.? I need to know.

      Another thing, you cannot predict exactly what you will get on your recordings because you are not scripting anything, and you are not telling anyone to say anything. You may ask specific questions in interviews, but you may not coach answers, That's contrived and everyone will hear it is fake.

      However, once you specify your subject, you should be good to go.

      Class: No more "retail oriented" subjects. This was the last one. That subject category is now closed.

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    2. Is a clothing store, is the gap outlet. And ok I will do that.

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  29. (Cameron) No direct connections, I mean recording the sounds the various equipment makes; jacks and plugs, etc. The sound of wires being connected, noise or sound the amps make when plugged in.

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  30. hey there professor,
    My idea for the Hoboken shelter didn't end up working out, i couldn't record there because of privacy concerns. I am thinking of doing the pizzeria down the street, Georgios Pizza. I like the environment there, they have a lot of people coming in and out and their kitchen has a lot of great sounds from the oven opening to the pizza being place in the oven, the pizza treys sliding on the counter... and more. I will take into consideration what you told me for my last idea.

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    1. No, Asela. I outlawed RETAIL a few posts back. Stay up to date. Haven't you encountered any interesting people?

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  31. yes i was up to date with all the posts, will think of something else.

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  32. how about a dance class,a modern dance class?? Its not a professional dance class but its for people of all ages dancing for some type of purpose, and we have a guest that comes every week and plays the drum? i will get some interviews with the dance teacher and students as well as our guest player. does this wok???

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    1. I would mostly focus on the teacher, Edna Chew, and her story and what made her become a dance teacher.

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    2. OK, so it is a portrait of Edna Chew, Modern Dance instructor. Sounds good.

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  33. Kyle's Idea:

    I want to do a portrait of my favorite fraternity (LSU) at NJCU. I'd interview the members of the organization and ask them what they stand for/represent and how they got started. I'd record them doing their pledges, salutes, stepping, and strolling routines.

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    1. OK, remember to employ all the details discussed above.

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  34. Hey Vin, I want to do my portrait on a employment agency that hire people to clean up the mess that hurricane sandy left behind. The agency is located right next door to my place, which as a result, I constantly hear people talking about not getting their correct amount of hours in their check, a bunch of phone calls from the employers, and tons of people getting in and out of the vans. I could try to interview some people that work there, but they all seem like an unfriendly bunch. If i get the go ahead, i'll definitely give it a shot.

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  35. OK John, make sure the focus is on the subject, the temp hurricane employment agency. As I am reminding everyone, if you haven't, read this entire post plus comments section.

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  36. Hey Vin,
    I was thinking of (a) an arcade or (b) a tattoo parlor or a coffee shop. What do you think?

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    1. Marc,
      Both have potential equally. What would you prefer? Tell me a lot more about the one you prefer.

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    2. I think I'll take a stab at the arcade. FunStation in Staten Island is an arcade/indoor "theme park" that has a bunch of different games and rides that take me right back to my childhood. I'm sure I'll be able to capture many elements here.

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    3. OK. You'll have to work hard to get perspective because game rooms tend to be loud all over. Try to get the sound of it from outside as well.

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  37. (Roberto Miranda)

    Hey Vin, I am considering interviewing a tattoo artist who also happens to be a musician. Your thoughts?

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  38. Hey Vin, I would like to conduct my interview at Sal's Pizzeria/Bar/ Restaurant. It's a local bar where regulars go and watch sports or boxing matches. Pleas advise your thoughts.

    Frances Matos

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    1. It's kind of retail, but I will allow it. All I said before applies. And a TV playing the "game" is just like a juke box playing music. So make sure you have your elements covered without the TV sound making editing impossible.

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  39. Hey Vin,
    I wanted to know if my subject for Work II could be water. I will record the sound water makes either naturally or when used by a person. I wont record a flushing toilet but i will record sprinklers,a hose, boiling water, etc.. My idea for interviews will gather opinions on water's importance along with a number of examples of it's daily use so that in a portion of the piece i can sync each use with the particual water sound recorded.

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  40. Mitch please tally the subjects/names and post here in a list. Thanks.

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  41. Mitch please post the tally so I can close this thread.

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  42. (*Tally includes only those who replied on this thread.)

    3pm:

    Leanna Alphonso - Cousin or Hookah Bar
    Albert Rodriguez - Bakery
    Joey - Pizza
    Ivan Smalls - Track Meet
    Brittney Ortiz - Juice/Smoothie Bar or Supermarket
    Asela - Edna Chew (Modern Dance Instructor)
    Cameron - Band
    Paul Jaigua - Nursing Home
    Kyle - LSU Fraternity
    John M. - Temporary Hurricane Employment Agency
    Roberto Miranda - Tattoo Artist and musician
    Frances Matos - Sal's Pizzeria/Bar/Restaurant


    7pm:

    Stevenson Guillame - Carwash
    Natalia Delgado - Dental Office
    Ivan Soria - Movie Theatre
    Josymar Gonzalo - Office
    Garrett - Spa/Resort
    Travis - English Teacher
    Kiana - Jeffret Dessources (Poet)
    Daniel - Coffee shop
    Merlyn Ro - Gap
    Marc Falcon - Arcade
    John S. - Water

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    1. Thank you kindly, Mitch. This thread is now closed.

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